April 17, 2025

Rethinking Inbound, Outbound & Everything in Between

Inbound and outbound aren’t opposing forces—they’re two sides of the same motion. 

When marketing owns both, it opens the door for tighter execution, faster learning, and better performance. But that kind of momentum doesn’t come from chasing tactics. It comes from reworking how the work actually gets done.  

In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Christina Kyriazi of PhotoShelter about how she rebuilt the company’s go-to-market engine from the inside out. From bringing outbound under marketing, to embedding product marketing early, to using experiments to guide spend, Christina shares how structure and process—not just tactics—made all the difference.

What You’ll Learn: 

Why outbound now rolls up to marketing and how that changed execution 

How product marketing helped define segments, use cases, and “wow” moments 

What “speed to lead” actually looks like and why it’s working 

How underperforming tactics became high-converting plays 

Where AI is helping accelerate research, content, and workflows without replacing the human voice  

If you're reworking how your team goes to market—structure, process, and all—tune in! 

Renegade Marketers Unite, Episode 447 on YouTube

Resources Mentioned 

Highlights

  • [1:17] Meet Christina Kyriazi 
  • [4:12] From B2C roots to B2B growth 
  • [7:45] Who’s PhotoShelter really for? 
  • [9:15] Customer chats over guesswork 
  • [11:53] Insight-hunting never stops 
  • [14:20] Find your wow moments 
  • [16:29] BDRs belong with marketing 
  • [24:28] About CMO Huddles  
  • [25:12] SEO is a patience game 
  • [32:56] Content is the fuel 
  • [37:15] Find the yellow shirt guy
  • [42:58] Do’s and don'ts of inbound + outbound

Highlighted Quotes 

“Sometimes it’s not the tactic that’s not working. It may be your process that’s not working.” —Christina Kyriazi

“If customers tell you that when they saw blah, blah, blah during the demo, they stopped in their tracks, that is a wow moment. Those are moments you have to document and make sure that you're constantly surfacing to the top. Those are the moments that make people act.” —Christina Kyriazi

You need to not attach your own self-worth to the worth of your tactics. If a tactic doesn’t work, it doesn’t work. Move on. It’s okay. Try something else.” —Christina Kyriazi  

Full Transcript: Drew Neisser in conversation with Christina Kyriazi

 

Show Credits

Renegade Marketers Unite is written and directed by Drew Neisser. Hey, that's me! This show is produced by Melissa Caffrey, Laura Parkyn, and Ishar Cuevas. The music is by the amazing Burns Twins and the intro Voice Over is Linda Cornelius. To find the transcripts of all episodes, suggest future guests, or learn more about B2B branding, CMO Huddles, or my CMO coaching service, check out renegade.com. I'm your host, Drew Neisser. And until next time, keep those Renegade thinking caps on and strong!